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State of California. I filed for unemployment benefits but my claim was denied because I quit my job under unusual circumstances. Can I appeal this denial?

by Jeffry
(Nevada)

I quit my job at a Credit Union because I had to file for bankruptcy in California. My employer was carrying $50,000.00 of the debt that was eventually discharged in the bankruptcy. I was employed by this company for 29 years and I quit my job before I filed for bankruptcy. Some of my co-workers were aware of my predicament and made comments such as "how can you come to work everyday and accept a paycheck from the same company that will have to discharge all that debt?". This caused me much stress and deep depression. I also surrendered my home in the bankruptcy and was left homeless and eventually moved to Nevada. When I filed my unemployment claim I stated that "I had to file for bankruptcy and some of my loans that were discharged were with my employer which caused it to be a hostile environment." A phone interview was scheduled and I explained to EDD the situation as I did above. I recieved a determination in the mail 14 days later. It stated "You are not eligible to receive benefits under California unemployment insurance code 1256 beginning 09/21/08 and continuing until you return to work after the disqualifying act and earn $1995.00 or more in bona fide employment, and you contact the above office to reopen your claim.
you quit your last job with (employer's name here). you have not shown that the quit was necessary or that you had explored all reasonable options before quitting. After considering available information, the department finds that you do not meet the legal requirements for payment of benefits. Section 1256 provides - an individual is disqualified if the department finds he voluntarily quit his most recent work without good cause or was discharged for misconduct from his recent work. Section 1260A provides - an individual disqualified under section 1256 is disqualified until he/she, subsequent to the disqualifying act, performs services in bona fide employment for which he/she receives remuneration equal to or in excess of five times his or her weekly benefit amount." How can I successfully appeal this determination?



Jeffry,

Of course you can appeal. Let me tell you something about unemployment.

THE INITIAL DETERMINATIONS ARE OFTEN WRONG.

A hearing is most often a much better venue for the disclosure of all the relevant facts. It involves both parties at the same time. Questions are asked and answered, and it is all directed by an ALJ who's heard it all.

A hostile work environment is often best suited to a hearing....because your appeal letter is going to name those who created it. If you spoke to anyone to try to get them to stop (this is important Jeffry) you are going to name them.

Your testimony will be direct or first-hand testimony, you name the people that were harassing you because if the employer doesn't bring them to the hearing....they can only rebut your testimony with hearsay which is basically worth squat when it's all that's offered to refute direct testimony.

All of this though, will depend on what you did Jeffry. Did you speak to management? Because if you didn't provide the employer an opportunity to tell those co-workers to put a sock in it...that's what they'll say.........and that could be all there is to it.

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State of California. I filed for unemployment benefits but my claim was denied because I quit my job under unusual circumstances. Can I appeal this denial?

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Sep 26, 2011
PLEASE HELP! ASAP!
by: Anonymous

I was working two jobs, part and full time. I lost my full time job due to laid off in 2009 and still working at this part time for 11-yrs ( was on unemployment benefits from full time job lost in 09, getting $22 a week because I have income from pt). My part time was an extra income on the side to help support my family. I have tried looking for another full time work during that time. I was under a lot of stress due to a long 2 1/2-yrs of trying to look for a job (the town I live in was very small and the unemployment rate was very high), I still couldn't find work, so I decided to relocate (to live with family because I can't afford to live on my own with the part time job),to a bigger city and more opportunities for me. I left my part time job because it wasnt enough income to pay my bills and support my family. After I moved, I filed for unemployment benefits but my claim was denied because it fall under Bona Fide Employment. It said: You are not eligible to receive benefits under Ca employment insurance code section 1256 beginning 8/28/11 and continuing until you return to work after the disqualifying act and earn $860 or more in Bona Fide Employment, and you contact the above office to reopen your claim.

Can I file for an appeal? What should I say on my appeal letter to win the case? If I do file, do I have a good chance?




Please read about unemployment appeals.

I believe I have a sample appeal letter and a few suggestions on that page which should work to make your appeal letter the only thing I know it has to be .. timely.

Sep 07, 2011
NEED ADVICE
by: Anonymous

I had a question after reading these posts. I am currently in the same situation. However, i have already made the amount of money that is necessary to reopen my claim based off of section 1260A. So does that mean that I can skip appealing it through my old work (which I got fired for) and go forward with unemployment because of section 1260A?




Hi,
Certainly, if you separated under qualifying conditions from the subsequent employment in which you earned the amount required to purge any former disqualification.

Chris

Jun 22, 2011
HELP - need quick response! Please
by: Anonymous

I have a similar situation and a similar initial determination. Small company, owner and boss is the one causing the hostile work environment. I personally asked her to stop her behavior and went to one more upper management person who brought her behavior to the table to request change for the whole office (issue was not just with me). The owner/boss did nothing to change her behavior. Now they denied my claim for quitting because of hostile work environment and they say I must "return to work after the disqualifying act and earn $2250 or more in bona fide employment and contact the office to reopen the claim". What the heck is this last part about? If I had bona fide employment I would not be asking for unemployment. Also, many employees experienced the same hostile and abusive behavior but everyone is scared to say anything because they are scared of their jobs.



You have two choices.

You either appeal the determination denying benefits and put on the best show possible to get benefits .. or you choose to do the last part of what that determination says you must do to be eligible for benefits .. if you happen to suffer from another separation from a job.

Simply put, to be eligible based upon the wages your current claim is based on .. you would have to go find another job and earn at minimum 5 times your weekly benefit amount before this current disqualification is overlooked .. in case you have a "qualifying separation from a job in the future.

Hmmmm ..... Maybe it doesn't sound so simple, but it really is .. it means before you can collect benefits .. in the future during this benefit year ... you have to go back to work.

Which after all is what the unemployment dept. really wants .. for everyone to find a job, go back to work and not to become reliant on benefits .. as a way of life.

Personally, I would appeal because you did make efforts and there really was no where higher to go.

Of course what I don't know is if what you call "hostile" will be considered "hostile enough" to cause another reasonable person enduring the same .. to also quit.

That's the standard used .. "the reasonable person standard".




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