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Inappropriate pictures supposedly seen AND exceeding orientation time....california

by tg
(la, california)

I started a job 7 months ago that is something I had NO expierence in what-so-ever. They knew this upon hiring me and knew they would have to extensively train me.


I was initially given 3 months to be on orientation, but unfortunately I was given a very impatient person as a trainer who used negatives and intimidation as a learning process. At my 3 month eval they said I was nowhere near where I needed to be and were going to give me another 3 months.

My last month they gave me to a new person who actually took the time to explain things and didn't dismiss my questions or make me feel stupid. During all this time I was questioned on several occasions about did i say this/ did i say that? I don't know who was feeding them (management) their info but more times than not, it was all twisted truth to make me look very bad! I've never been written up for anything.

Then about a month ago it was a slow day, we had stocked our room and did all we could do and were just waiting for our patient. In that time someone had sent me a picture text of something sexually disgusting. Me and 3 of the 4 people involved did see it and got a good laugh....at that point my trainer and I decided to see if we could go to lunch (since it was that time) and our supervisor walked in to tell us to go to lunch and asked what we were laughing about.

Another person in the room had told him why and he asked to see it. I said, no its pretty bad. At that point he said, oh. I GOTTA see it now! Let me see it, in an excited manner. He didn't seem upset and I said you don't want to, but I explained what it was and he said, oh ya, your right i don't wanna see that.

I was questioned about the incident and asked who was in the room. Of the 4 people involved only
one person was questioned. She stated she didn't even remember what the picture was and certainly can't be offended by something she doesn't remember.

The other (my trainer) was asked to sign a statement saying he was offended, and he refused, feeling he didn't feel offended. He felt they were picking on me unfairly.

The other 2 people who were NOT questioned can only imagine that they were not questioned because they have their own "issues" with management.

I was fired that same day saying i'm not at the point they expected me to be in my orientation.

They felt they gave me a fair extension to learn and had supposedly been told by many others they felt I wasn't ready to be on my own.

I know a lot came from my first trainer who said that i didn't care about patients or show a drive to learn...even though there was a big improvement once placed with my new trainer, who i only got to be with for a MONTH.

I know many people who felt my training was unfair to me because of the training I FIRST received.

And although yes, i could've tried to study more or what have you, I still went in daily with a good attitude and always did what was asked of me happily.......and at my time
of letting me go I only signed a copy of my final paycheck and that's it!

I wasn't given anything to show this was a problem or that anyone complained. So with this long explanation, my question is will i still be denied unemployment? i have 4 kids, a nanny, rent and cars to pay for and i feel i was unfairly fired and if i cant find a new job right away I definately will need the unemployment.


Hi TG,

You know, there is a reason .. other than needing to earn a living, that I only allow "general questions about unemployment nowadays.

I use to start the process by asking the questions that someone's story of "what happened" triggered for me. And if a story triggers questions for me .. it will trigger questions for the state. I already know from the last two paragraphs of your story .. you stand a good chance of being denied .. and with no help whatsoever from the employer.

And trust me TG, your story triggers other questions that need to be answered first to determine whether you will be denied for certain or if you have the ability to show the discharge was without good cause.

It became virtually impossible for me to cover everything I felt I needed to say in this forum about "what could happen", why you should not say that, .. What I'd do if I were you, etc.

I left every single Q&A available for people to read though .. for those who are able to grasp how and why people either get benefits or why they don't. For those that don't I offer my help and I also have links everywhere for those in California to the CA Eligibility Guide.

The problem when you don't get a termination notice is that you only have exactly what the employer told you as the reason for termination. They could respond to the state with something different than what they told you the reason for firing you was.

Although your story was compelling to read .. I'm confused, first by the title of your question which implies you were discharged for inappropriate conduct in the workplace .. and then compounded by this statement "During all this time I was questioned on several occasions about did i say this/ did i say that? I don't know who was feeding them (management) their info but more times than not, it was all twisted truth to make me look very bad! I've never been written up for anything."

And then your statement about what the employer said you were being let go for .. "I was fired that same day saying I'm not at the point they expected me to be in my orientation. They felt they gave me a fair extension to learn and had supposedly been told by many others they felt I wasn't ready to be on my own."

And your self disqualifying response of "And although yes, I could have tried to study more or what have you, I still went in daily with a good attitude and always did what was asked of me happily.......

I have more questions, but this is just a small sample to give you an idea of how what you say out loud or write down where it will become part of a "record" can be examined and used to tell more than you think it did.

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