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Threatened with termination because sales are slow in dept.

by jaime
(florida )

I AM WORKING IN A RETAIL DEPT STORE AS A COUNTER MANAGER AT ONE OF THE LESSER KNOWN COSMETIC LINES. I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 2 1/2 YEARS.


ABOUT 3 WEEKS AGO, THE AREA MANAGER AND STORE MANAGER CALLED ME INTO THE OFFICE. THEY GAVE ME MY MID REVIEW. THEY TOLD ME THAT I NEEDED TO GIVE OUT AND FOLLOW UP ON 20 SAMPLES FROM MY COUNTER. ( I DO THIS ANYWAY) AND THAT I NEEDED TO SELL 2 ITEMS TO AT LEAST 60% OF MY CUSTOMERS OR I WOULD BE TERMINATED - NO PAY CUT JUST TERMINATED.

I TOLD THEM NO PROBLEM I COULD DO IT - I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A PLOY TO MOTIVATE THROUGH FEAR.

WELL, THREE WEEKS INTO IT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REACH THE 2 ITEMS TO 60% OF THE CUSTOMERS EVEN THOUGH I HAVE BEEN PUSHY. CONSUMERS ARE WATCHING THEIR PENNIES- MY FOUNDATION SELLS FOR $33-$40. GETTING THEM TO BUY ONE MORE THING BUMPS THEM UP TO SPENDING WELL OVER $50.

IN ALL HONESTY, THEY COULD JUST TURN AROUND AND GO TO THE CLINIQUE COUNTER RIGHT NEXT TO ME SPEND THE SAME AMOUNT AND GET A FOUNDATION FOR $20, A MASCARA FOR $14 GET A FREE GIFT TO BOOT.

THEY DON'T BECAUSE THEY ARE LOYAL TO MY BRAND BUT ALL MY 1 ITEM SALES MIGHT GET ME CANNED. THE PEOPLE IN THE BIG LINES ARE STRUGGLING TOO. ONE OF THE TOP PERFORMERS AT CLINIQUE LEFT FOR THE DAY WITH ONLY $40 IN.

I
AM UPSET, I WILL TRY TO STICK IT OUT UNTIL THESE 30 DAYS ARE OVER- I DON'T PLAN ON SIGNING ANYTHING THAT INDICATES I WAS TERMINATED, THOUGH I DID SIGN THE 30 DAY REVIEW AGREEMENT WHICH HAD THE WORDS "TERMAINATION " ON IT. DO YOU THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO COLLECT? PLEASE ADVISE.


Hi Jaime,

You just stick it out, a quit will disqualify you. Do not be afraid to sign write-ups or even termination papers. Not if you use the opportunity to add your own two cents worth.

Most of these forms have space for "employee comment". This is an opportunity to deflate a primary tool used by employers to deny unemployment benefits.

Your argument above says it all. We ALL know we're pinching pennies, even your managers know we're all pinching pennies now. Personally, I think your can do attitude says a lot about you.

You are doing your job to best of your ability. If they fire you, that's what you tell the state and that your best just couldn't overcome the realities of the present economy.

By the way, if there is not any room for "employee comments" just write see attached and hand them a copy of your statement regarding the reason for the write-up or termination.

Let me tell you what happens when someone doesn't sign. The employer writes "refused to sign". An unscrupulous manager could possibly recreate a more harmful write-up. Just a little food for thought :)

Good Luck Jaime and thanks for sharing!!

Chris

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Rick
by: Anonymous

Its rather complicated but here goes. I worked for a company for over 4 years. They recently found out I have a similar business to theirs. I have not touched any of their accounts. I never signed a no compete form either. The accounts I do have are with retail stores. Their account are with banks and nowhere near retail.
I was asked if I owned a similar business. I told them no! I was told after that comment that was good because if it were true they would have to fire me.
Work has been slow and my hours have dropped to half (20). This Friday looks like it might be my last day. They scheduled a special meeting with me.
I have laidoff others in the past and know the procedures,and this has all the makings for it. My personal business is under my wife's name and I do not appear in any of the documentation with the state. My question is. Do you see anything that may prevent me from collecting unemployement.


Hi Rick,

If you are going to be laid off .. then no, I do not see anything standing in the way of collecting unemployment.

Who is getting paid from the business you and your wife have? Most states ask when you file for continuing unemployment benefits if you have received any money from commissions. Sounds like you might be splitting hairs and I don't think I'm the one to ask if your personal business is going to present some type of fraud issue as far as UI goes. Talk to an attorney.

This is just the type of thing an employer could use to create a problem for a claimant. I've seen it done.

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